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jeantel, that could not have been the guy punching george zimmerman. >> thank you very much for joining me tonight. all of you. >>> thank you. >>> coming up, cecile richards will join us with the latest from texas and the legislative fight over women's reproductive freedom there. >>> and there is news tonight from wikileaks, indicating tomorrow will be a big day for edward snowden. >>> and in the rewrite tonight, a classic american movie rewritten by its star, dustin hoffman. in his own words you will hear the material on the road to discovery, the essence of the character. and in this case, the character he was playing was a woman in "tootsie." and the moment that he discovered, that brought him and maybe you to tears. vo: traveling you definitely end up meeting a lot more people but a friend under water is something completely different. i met a turtle friend today so, you don't get that very often. it seemed like it was more than happy to have us in his home. so beautiful. avo: more travel. more options. more personal. whatever you're looking for expedia has more ways to help you fin
jeantel, that could not have been the guy punching george zimmerman. >> thank you very much for joining me tonight. all of you. >>> thank you. >>> coming up, cecile richards will join us with the latest from texas and the legislative fight over women's reproductive freedom there. >>> and there is news tonight from wikileaks, indicating tomorrow will be a big day for edward snowden. >>> and in the rewrite tonight, a classic american movie rewritten by...
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still, he's keeping it kind of light hearted with rachel jeantel. there's no evidence at all that trayvon martin had any animous towards george zimmerman. i always thought it strange he was lurking behind bushes and is just going to haul off and sucker is punch him out of the blue. that doesn't make sense. >> how could he be following him then sneak up on him to get sucker punched? i think lisa's point is also correct. trayvon martin used both of the big sort of racial words. i think that cancels themselves out as opposed to george zimmerman who seems to be presenting this. i can't look back because i'm so fixated still on the verdict and what that will mean. and are we about to learn that once again a black man can be killed with no penalty because americans -- some americans will say it is justifiable to be afraid for your life when you are fighting with a black man. as john guy pointed out, if the races were switched, we'd be in an entirely different situation. >> black man, black child. remember, trayvon martin was a child. let's talk about john
still, he's keeping it kind of light hearted with rachel jeantel. there's no evidence at all that trayvon martin had any animous towards george zimmerman. i always thought it strange he was lurking behind bushes and is just going to haul off and sucker is punch him out of the blue. that doesn't make sense. >> how could he be following him then sneak up on him to get sucker punched? i think lisa's point is also correct. trayvon martin used both of the big sort of racial words. i think that...
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recall what he told rachel jeantel, this guy following him. and she said something to the effect of, well, maybe he's like a sex pervert or something. and that's when he referred to he's a cracker or whatever word he has used and he used the "n" word too. but when you think of it, that is the person that was scared, i would submit. now, trayvon martin, unfortunately, can't come into this courtroom and tell you how he was feeling. and that's true because of the actions of one man. the defendant. let's talk about the defendant that night. no dispute that he was part -- i would submit he was the neighborhood watch. but, again, that's perfectly good. that's a good thing. but he was upset that burglars got away. that's also a good thing. that's good that people get involved. and apparently according to his statement he was driving the target. now, he's driving the target, it's raining and what does he do? okay. he calls the police something suspicious, but then he tracks this guy down. he tracks trayvon martin. he didn't just call the police and sa
recall what he told rachel jeantel, this guy following him. and she said something to the effect of, well, maybe he's like a sex pervert or something. and that's when he referred to he's a cracker or whatever word he has used and he used the "n" word too. but when you think of it, that is the person that was scared, i would submit. now, trayvon martin, unfortunately, can't come into this courtroom and tell you how he was feeling. and that's true because of the actions of one man. the...
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>> rachel jeantel, the friend who was on the phone with trayvon martin moments before he was shot said he was trying to get away from a man who was following him. >> creepy ass cracker i heard trayvon saying and get off of me. >> but then came neighbor john good, a prosecution witness whose story seemed to bolster zimmerman's defense. >> i could tell the person on the bottom had a lighter ske eed color. >> did you feel it exaggerated the manner in which he was hit? >> yes, sir. >> the courtroom was riveted by the testimony of grieving parents sybrina fulton and tracy martin, who talked about losing their 17-year-old son. >> my world has been turned upside down. >> and late in the trial prosecutor john guy used a mannequin to demonstrate the state's theory of the case. >> were you aware the defendant described to his best friend that when he slid down, the defendant slid down, that trayvon martin was up around his armpits? were you aware of that? >> no, i've not heard that. >> where would the gun be now? >> now the gun would be behind your left leg. >> okay. >> defense attorney mark o'm
>> rachel jeantel, the friend who was on the phone with trayvon martin moments before he was shot said he was trying to get away from a man who was following him. >> creepy ass cracker i heard trayvon saying and get off of me. >> but then came neighbor john good, a prosecution witness whose story seemed to bolster zimmerman's defense. >> i could tell the person on the bottom had a lighter ske eed color. >> did you feel it exaggerated the manner in which he was hit?...
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however that happens, if you believe rachel jeantel, like i do, it happens because george zimmerman confronted him, a fight started. when he saw he was losing the fight, he shot him. at that point, the jury has to believe he was in imminent death and reason to believe he was going to die, and therefore had no choice but to shoot him. but i think the weight of the evidence is, he says even if he was able to get his hands free. and this is why i didn't mind the demonstration that john guy did in the court today. even if you take his very best scenario, take his word, it doesn't make sense, because george zimmerman said he could pull one hand free and moved trayvon martin's hand away from his face, if you have both hands free, why can't you just push the guy off you. i am hoping the jury will bring the common sense to them, who sees that george zimmerman is the older, aware of his power -- >> key phrase i just heard from marcia, and that is no choice. for george zimmerman, it had to come down to absolutely no choice other than to kill. is this jury of mothers go to believe that there was no choic
however that happens, if you believe rachel jeantel, like i do, it happens because george zimmerman confronted him, a fight started. when he saw he was losing the fight, he shot him. at that point, the jury has to believe he was in imminent death and reason to believe he was going to die, and therefore had no choice but to shoot him. but i think the weight of the evidence is, he says even if he was able to get his hands free. and this is why i didn't mind the demonstration that john guy did in...
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jeantel, looking into windows. he is not the kind of pot smoker, the extremely rare kind that would sucker punch somebody in the face, climb on top of him and threaten to kill him. >> so you think it was more strategic in terms of their deciding -- >> if i were the prosecutor, i'd say bring it on. let's talk about the depressant, marijuana, that was in trayvon martin's system. let's talk about the upper, which is adderall that is in george zimmerman's system. bring it on. let's have all of it. >> and you agree with that, faith? you would put the adderall in and the marijuana? >> i would certainly make that argument. but i think the state is happy that this is not coming in, because trayvon martin so far, he is a kid walking home with skittles and iced tea. and the defense is going to try to argue but he is also a drug user. so i think the state is happy that this isn't coming in. >> now, the fact that, ken, we are starting to wind down now, and we -- if the defense, rather, does settle tomorrow or in the next coupl
jeantel, looking into windows. he is not the kind of pot smoker, the extremely rare kind that would sucker punch somebody in the face, climb on top of him and threaten to kill him. >> so you think it was more strategic in terms of their deciding -- >> if i were the prosecutor, i'd say bring it on. let's talk about the depressant, marijuana, that was in trayvon martin's system. let's talk about the upper, which is adderall that is in george zimmerman's system. bring it on. let's have...
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jeantel testified. the caption on the photo read "we beat stupidity celebration cones and dad killed it." could that be a factor why the judge is so tough on him? >> no, i don't think so. i think the judge is dealing with don west as he presents himself in court. she is not going to hold him responsible for his daughter unless she knows, has reason to believe that he was involved in it. >> well, he was in the photo with the daughter. >> well, yeah. i would hope that she is not. don west is doing a very aggressive job as a lawyer. i disagree on certain points because i don't like the way he treated rach. . but he has properly stood up to the judge when he needed to. i didn't say the judge should not have inquired whether he wanted to waive zimmerman, it's a question of when you do it. i don't think the judge should have done it at that time when the case had not resolved itself. don was perfectly right to protest that type of inquiry at that time. certainly there was going to be a time when that was appr
jeantel testified. the caption on the photo read "we beat stupidity celebration cones and dad killed it." could that be a factor why the judge is so tough on him? >> no, i don't think so. i think the judge is dealing with don west as he presents himself in court. she is not going to hold him responsible for his daughter unless she knows, has reason to believe that he was involved in it. >> well, he was in the photo with the daughter. >> well, yeah. i would hope that...
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jeantel, that could not have been the guy punching george zimmerman. >> thank you very much for joining me tonight. all of you. >>> thank you. >>> coming up, cecile richards will join us with the latest from texas and the legislative fight over women's reproductive freedom there. >>> and there is news tonight from wikileaks, indicating tomorrow will be a big day for edward snowden. >>> and in the rewrite tonight, a classic american movie rewritten by its star, dustin hoffman. in his own words you will hear the material on the road to discovery, the essence of the character. and in this case, the character he was playing was a woman in "tootsie." and the moment that he discovered, that brought him and maybe you to tears. ever wonder what this costs you as a taxpayer? millions? tens of millions? hundreds of millions? not a single cent. the united states postal service doesn't run on your tax dollars. it's funded solely by stamps and postage. brought to you by the men and women of the american postal worker's union. . >>> when florida governor rick scott signed a bill banning internet cafe
jeantel, that could not have been the guy punching george zimmerman. >> thank you very much for joining me tonight. all of you. >>> thank you. >>> coming up, cecile richards will join us with the latest from texas and the legislative fight over women's reproductive freedom there. >>> and there is news tonight from wikileaks, indicating tomorrow will be a big day for edward snowden. >>> and in the rewrite tonight, a classic american movie rewritten by...
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and i think the same thing was done to rachel jeantel. because she wasn't humbling herself, to someone who was being rather rude to her. >> and a young woman clearly having posttraumatic stress. her friend, did, in fact, die and she was the last one to speak to him. but again, that point that races are kind of filtered. it's painful to watch how this is once again playing out. thank you to msnbc's alex wagner and to toure. i love having my fellow msnbc hosts here at the table. >>> up next, the prisoner who's been in solitary confinement for 41 years, he's now facing truly the fight of his life. ♪ that's me... i made you something. ♪ i made you something, too. ♪ see you next summer. ♪ [ male announcer ] get exceptional values on the highest quality cars at the summer of audi sales event. ♪ a regular guy with an irregular heartbeat. the usual, bob? not today. [ male announcer ] bob has afib: atrial fibrillation not caused by a heart valve problem, a condition that puts him at greater risk for a stroke. [ gps ] turn left. i don't t
and i think the same thing was done to rachel jeantel. because she wasn't humbling herself, to someone who was being rather rude to her. >> and a young woman clearly having posttraumatic stress. her friend, did, in fact, die and she was the last one to speak to him. but again, that point that races are kind of filtered. it's painful to watch how this is once again playing out. thank you to msnbc's alex wagner and to toure. i love having my fellow msnbc hosts here at the table....
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jeantel. >> yes. >> she was on the phone with trayvon martin. >> yes. >> at the end of the call the phone hit what sounded like wet grass and then she heard trayvon martin saying, get off, get off. >> absolutely. >> if the jury believes that, they may believe that george zimmerman was the one who started the fight. >> yeah. going back, lease, thank you for that, going back to what happens now after the recess? >> right. after the recess the judge is going to have to rule whether this witness can testify or not. it's adam pollock the gym owner, called back to the stand. first question from the prosecution about advertising he's done, suggesting he's advertised his involvement in the case, that elicited an objection, sounds like a cross-examination question that should have been asked when he testified previously for the defense. >> lisa, to that point, though, have you not noticed the number of people who have been called by the defense who have continuing relationships with the defendant? i mean, olivia bertalan who just testified, she follows the lead defense attorney mark o'mara o
jeantel. >> yes. >> she was on the phone with trayvon martin. >> yes. >> at the end of the call the phone hit what sounded like wet grass and then she heard trayvon martin saying, get off, get off. >> absolutely. >> if the jury believes that, they may believe that george zimmerman was the one who started the fight. >> yeah. going back, lease, thank you for that, going back to what happens now after the recess? >> right. after the recess the judge...
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>> rachel jeantel, the friend on the phone with him moments before he was shot said he was trying to get away from a man who was following him. >> creepy ass cracker. i heard trayvon saying get off, a little bit as i was calling his name. >> then came neighbor john good, a prosecution witness whose story seemed to bolster zimmerman's defense. >> i could tell the person on the bottom had a lighter skinned color. >> police officer christopher soreno, the lead detective the night of the incident that originally recommended manslaughter charges testified about trying to catch zimmerman in a lie. >> you feel he exaggerated the manner in which he was hit? >> yes, sir. >> state would call sybrina fulton. >> the courtroom was riveted by the testimony of grieving parent sybrina fulton and tracy martin who talked about losing their 17-year-old son. >> my youngest son is trayvon benjamin martin. >> our world has just been turned upside down. >> and late in the trial john guy used a mannequin to demonstrate the state's theory of the case. >> were you aware the defendant described to his best fri
>> rachel jeantel, the friend on the phone with him moments before he was shot said he was trying to get away from a man who was following him. >> creepy ass cracker. i heard trayvon saying get off, a little bit as i was calling his name. >> then came neighbor john good, a prosecution witness whose story seemed to bolster zimmerman's defense. >> i could tell the person on the bottom had a lighter skinned color. >> police officer christopher soreno, the lead...